https://www.salon.com/2018/05/18/rudys-desperate-new-defense-for-trump-conspiring-with-the-russians-wasnt-illegal/
"we know for a fact that the Trump campaign was crawling with Russians and that people at the highest levels were talking to them. There are a handful of former Trump officials either under indictment or cooperating after pleading guilty to various crimes, so Giuliani probably shouldn't count his Chicken Kievs quite yet."
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